2004-09-16. Freedom & Self Determination
Lightline #29
Topic: Freedom & Self Determination
Group: Lightline TeaM
Teacher: Anatolia
TR: Willie Verhoff
Opening
ANATOLIA: Anatolia is here. Welcome friends from all walks of life and from all over this great land that is both blessed in many ways, both materially and physically, as well as spiritually. For this land that you call the United States of America, which is your homeland and that for which you give great belief and credence in terms of the principles for which it was established are wonderful recipients of the heritage that has been given to you for the purpose of living the experiment of freedom, and to uphold all of the principles that have been given to you from your most important source, that of your spiritual hierarchy that has presented the precepts by which your land has been functioning now for over 200 years. This is a principle of freedom that needs to be protected and to be guarded if future generations are to receive this gift as well and to be able to accept the responsibility that goes with it as well.
Lesson
I wish to just reassure you that this is something that may have been taken for granted, and that you have the opportunity to seize and to respect that which has been granted to you as a receptive and experimental people in this day and age on your planet. Now this is also the force that has made this possible within your nation and this hemisphere of the earth is something that was not simply intended to be appreciated and enjoyed by an elite group of individuals, but was developed for exportation, so that others throughout the world may learn the principle and to be able to develop such tendencies as self government may employ.
The key, nevertheless, to engaging in a free society requires the education and determination, as well as desire for those present to participate in fully. It is perhaps an understatement to say that freedom and its subsequent responsibilities can be ably appreciated and administered by and in mature society that is not ready for these principles to be implemented. I am simply referring to both the practical example of what your world and society is currently experiencing in terms of Iraq and the difficulties that are being encountered there, and the expectation that a people will be able to simply take up where 200 years of your history has preceded and to fill in the gaps in an instant type of movement. This is not to say that the experience of freedom and self government cannot or will not be possible. It is simply that if you look at your experience, it would not follow that it would need a 200 year precedent to be effective. It is simply that the desire and determination that a war preceded its implementation was such that it required that amount of dedication and sacrifice to establish.
What I am talking about is that the quest and zest for self government and self determination is actually a higher developed principle which does not grow out of nothingness into fruition. For what you are realizing as a society and appreciate in terms of what your society has produced is the result of fairly highly developed principles which many have had to do the ground work for making real and possible for your experiences some hundreds of years hence. I again state that this is the underlying premise for which I am speaking today, and that your need to be an active and spiritual participant and defender of freedom as you know it, and as it can be more fully developed in your society and elsewhere that this needs to be more actively practiced and made known in society, because it is otherwise being misinterpreted and misunderstood as the founding fathers had intended.
What I am saying is that my lesson tonight is intending for you to respect and appreciate the great gift that you have for self government and self determination, and that while the election season that you find yourselves in are pointing to excesses in one camp or another, I wish to illustrate or re-illustrate some of the principles that you learned while going to school in terms of what makes this country the great place that it is. And it is primarily self government and self determination and self rule by and for the majority that so determine what is considered to be of and for and by the people.
Now I realize that this may sound like a political ad. It is not intended in any such way, other than to reinforce as a principle that seldom gets illustrated in today’s climate. The principles that established this country need to be re-examined and re-highlighted and brought to the table for discussion, putting all of the other discussion or debate items aside, because these have become slightly skewed over and above or beyond what the principles that created or supports the current debate is all about. So this is what I am wishing to present tonight as a lesson for your consideration, as the reasons why this country is great, and that the freedom you enjoy is also a freedom, regardless of the method of government.
Self determination and freedom is what the Creator intended from its earliest development of people to govern themselves, rather than be governed, or to be responsible stewards of their own lives, as well as stewards of each other’s lives. This is my basic message to you tonight, to suggest that you go to whatever source you know of, or look on the internet for other sources that you may wish to seek out, to reinforce the lessons of self government, and to re-educate yourselves as to why these are important, and perhaps to reread the Bill of Rights and the Amendments to the Constitution as reiterations of why a focus for world freedoms may be a good focus to reenact at this time in your history.
For it does have great importance in terms of the individual spiritual reality of each individual, and how individuals interact. For as surely as one person is denied their inalienable rights within creation, all are denied rights within creation. So long as one individual, one soul is denied freedom, growth and development does not exist for everyone, because at least one is denied it. Whether one accepts it, and/or rejects the opportunity presented, is another story. But if it is not presented or made available, then humanity is not reached to the level of development that it is capable of reaching if it is denied other brothers and sisters throughout one’s own country, or throughout any other part of the world. We can see then that the world has a way to go in terms of self determination and freedom within his or her own life, and the responsibility that such freedom requires.
I invite you to give some thought in terms of how this great experiment may be reinforced and continued in your world, for it is surely a part of your reason for being on the earth at this time, as it has ever been within the past 200 plus years or prior, through all of the struggles that humanity has undertaken or experienced. This time is as important, or more important perhaps, than any other because it means the continuation and expansion of this great experiment.
Now, moving to another topic for your continued growth and realization is to illustrate within your own lives that which you find through self examination, what you find to be non-freeing, or non-liberating practices within your own life. I mean, what do you practice or not practice on a daily basis that allows or disallows you from being a fully functioning, capable, loving individual, respecting those rights and responsibilities and boundaries that you have within your own life that respects the similar abilities or boundaries within another individual.
So I wish for you to take a look at, and perhaps even make a list of, what within your own life allows you to live your life as fully and freely, unencumbered by guilt and stress, pressure and limitations that you may place upon yourself. What are you doing within your life that enhances these qualities and opportunities for self health, self help, growth and development, and at the same time encourages others to do the same thing, knowing yet the boundaries for possibly interfering in another’s life as the distinction between total freedom and absolute responsibility?
So as this makes a figure 8 in terms of total freedom as one circle, and total responsibility as another circle. How these two concepts interact make a waist that is a meeting point of the two circles, and how those interact. It is conceivable then that one’s own concept of self government and freedom could be a very large circle, and the point of responsibility could be a very small circle, therefore making a very distorted figure 8. The reverse is true as well. So I ask you to take a look at in this concept of freedom and responsibility, how your concept of your life and its implementation and effectiveness is in terms a visual aid of the figure 8 for example.
All of these things enter in, and I am addressing this as your rights and responsibilities for personal freedom. But it also changes according to one’s responsibilities for or with a family, a spouse, a partner, whatever one’s expression is in life. It may not be as simple as limiting yourself to just yourself, but the other people involved in your life, and how you address the freedom and responsibility in your life in relation to the others that are a part of your life. If you are a single individual, and need to look at these concepts solely based upon yourself, your larger world or larger family certainly comes into play in terms of how you are respecting or not respecting the rights of those around you who may or may not be family members.
This is all a concept which I bring to you tonight as a different way of looking at your life and the current circumstances involving a political process which is becoming more intense by the day. So I wish to bring another perspective, that is a spiritual perspective, that will aid you in looking at the bigger picture, the principle picture that is based upon everything that you are hearing on a daily and constant basis. I am willing to entertain and address questions for any who may have them as of now.
Dialogue
MANU: Anatolia, given your excellent lesson I have a two part question for you. The way this country was established, there were also certain philosophies that really helped create a lot of wealth and prosperity in this part of the world. Obviously when other countries look to this county to maybe adopt self determination, they look at that aspect as well. So how can that be supported in the sense that more and more countries look at the United States for ideas of freedom, how can they also support getting wealthy and prosperous without spoiling the balance of ecology and the environment across the world? That is my first question, and the second question has to do with how do we address all kinds of small nations and parts of other nations for the express purpose of self determination? I guess spoil the figure 8 and then claim more benefits for themselves in trying to free themselves from another part of the nation that they may be part of or claim to ask for ask for independence, for the lack of a better term.
ANATOLIA: First of all, the question that you asked concerning how can the wealth of other nations be developed in respect to the natural resources that are part of a nation’s basis of wealth, and how that can relate to others, I simply wish to address that in terms of a principle that the right to private ownership is something that can and should be encouraged. However, there are needs to address natural resources as the age old basis of real wealth in terms of the extraction, development and production from raw material to finish product and the ownership and distribution of such wealth, and how it is to be managed, is something that should be developed from a commonwealth perspective.
That is, while the development and change of raw materials into a finished product may be in private ownership hands, it is a key concept that all beings participating in the production of such material that produces wealth based on natural resources needs to include a role for everyone taking part in that process. So more so it appears in recent years it appears it has not been a prevalent principle that has been active of the concept of commonwealth, and consequently each individual’s role as a participant in that process needs to be respected and valued as a result, what the price or share of participation is in the production of wealth, so that everyone has a stake and a responsibility and a concomitant share in the proceeds produced. That may be an academic or a book description, but nevertheless I think you may see the kernels what you are asking in that answer.
Secondly, I believe the second part of the question may have had more to do with political stakes, that is a fair distribution of power or rights and responsibilities, as may be addressed by everybody in what their expectations may be for benefitting. Again, it would appear to be based on the concept of commonwealth in terms of what one’s stake is and responsibilities and rights areas a participant in a society that produces wealth based upon natural resources, which are God given, and not any one individual’s by right, inheritance or purchase. But need is a concept in terms of a natural resource, which needs to be developed and produced for the benefit of all who participate, including shares of distribution based upon their traditional economic principles of risk, ownership and other such factors that larger shares to be distributed as a result of wealth produced would be proportionate to one’s investment. The principle I am getting to is that under such formulas for the development of wealth, the important point is that no one participating in the process should be devalued or left out as a benefactor in the production. Therefore, all participating actors have and receive a benefit for participation in both the economic and political process. Does this answer your question at all?
MANU: Yes, thank you so much. I appreciate your comments.
SIMON: Your visualization of the figure 8 reminds me of the infinity, and also the possibilities of contributing to the share of society. I am just grateful for Father’s loving kindness for connecting with us this way, and look forward to greater possibilities of working to contribute to greater societal growth. Is it not something along the lines of my experience is different because of how I am working to contribute to that particular thing in relation to all of the people contributing to whole of the negative part of it. Do you know what I am saying?
ANATOLIA: No.
SIMON: How much is it that I create the center by my consciousness of it, as far as making a difference in bringing possibilities to exist? I feel like I am contributing somewhat to it, to the betterment of the government.
ANATOLIA: Lets say for example that in the personal examination of the figure 8, which is what I had suggested that you do, because you in all best intentions personally cannot address the expansion, shape or retraction of the figure 8 for anybody else, obviously. But in your own case, how you can affect that is more a result of examining what you believe your life exemplifies in honesty, and then seeing as if it is a thermometer with above or below the zero Fahrenheit level in terms of plus or minus activity of expansion or reduction of one side of the equation or other.
In other words, in terms of your freedom and rights side of the equation, if for example in all honesty you would see that your life as it is being expressed, not according to how you would like to interpret it, but how you can best evaluate how your life is being led. If you would see that it looks like a spider and has a very large thorax, and very small head in terms of responsibility, then it needs to be adjusted, and that is where you can then get a picture of how that can best be adjusted as a result of your determination of what type of a resulting figure you can see developing from how you are interpreting your life being led. Is that an accurate description or answer for what you are asking?
SIMON: Yes. Sometimes I think just giving up all this to Father and doing as much as I can do to love and work and serve and do what I can in my own community. A lot of this seems somewhat far off as far as changing the political situation, the presidential election. I have definite ideas and definite opinions about it. I feel like I know how I am going to vote for it, but as far as contributing to the process, I feel like I want to contribute to it, to assist in it in some way, like mentally. What can we do to make a change?
ANATOLIA: Correct. The main message I want to bring to the group tonight is because there is a lot of fervor and tumult during the current political debate, I just want to illustrate for people’s examination what are the underlying principles that this battle is all about, and what is it that each individual from a spiritual point of view is living every day, but perhaps not giving much thought to because it becomes taken for granted and assumed that because of freedom everyone is living their lives as freely as they wish or care to. But perhaps not paying attention to the principles behind it, and what are the larger principles that we need to be living by within the format of a free society and as free as possible from ideology to take a look at that and become more aware of the principles that are there, to be able to if nothing else rededicate one’s self to those principles, and to see how they can amend and refine their life and its goals as a result. That was the concept for tonight, not in any way necessarily to say that any one individual may be askew from living life properly. It is simply an invitation to rededicate one’s self to the principles, and then to examine how they may be lived, both individually and collectively. Does that help any?
SIMON: Yes, it helps tremendously. Thanks so much, Anatolia. It feels real good, real concrete, bringing me back to a good square.
Closing
ANATOLIA: Friends of the earth, who are committed to being true to themselves, and to one another, and to the planet in which our creator has bestowed, I ask that our spirits, one together and collectively, look at ourselves in light of the God force that we represent, and reflect upon the light that we share, and make mental contact as far as we can to our nearest neighbor, asking that they in their subconscious make contact with their nearest neighbor, and as such contacts are made to re-enliven the sense of sacred within us, and within the planets in which we live. For life needs to be respected, and needs to be protected so that those souls wishing and needing to develop will have the needs met through the experience of life in such a world as is enjoyed historically and currently on earth, and on other planets of such experience. We ask this through our Lord and Director, Christ Michael, as the perfect teacher of love and uniter of will, we ask this now and for all time.
