2009-09-29. Monjoronson Q & A Session 69
No Idaho #615
Topic: Monjoronson Q & A Session 69
Group: N. Idaho TeaM
Teacher: Machiventa, Monjoronson
TR: Henry Z.
Opening
Prayer: Father, connect us in this present universe circuit of energy and communication, this energy circuit which supplies us with the energy, the thought, the courage to move into a superhuman area where we can touch base with spirit and its intent, the product of spirit. We tap into this gravity of time that lets us hitchhike on to eternity. Thank you again Mother and Father for this wonderful universe connection and we thank you Monjoronson and Machiventa for the time you both contribute to this planetary dream of Michael’s.
Monjoronson: This is Monjoronson. Greetings, this evening. We are ready to begin.
- Nature (Vicissitudes)
Question #1: Are morontia beings affected by the vicissitudes of our planet? For instance, when it rains, do they get wet or when it’s cold or hot, do their bodies react to these external stimuli?
Machiventa: Greetings this evening, this is Machiventa. Thank you for this questioning. It is hoped that in the morontia state, that humans pay more attention to their spiritual directives and their growth within. Therefore the spiritual universe accommodates its worlds in such a way that it becomes tremendously comfortable to live and progressively grow. Your question reflects a perspective of one coming from a much cruder environment such as Urantia in which battling the elements and the external forces of nature becomes somewhat overwhelming in your preoccupation to grow on this planet. We thank you for your interest and we thank you for this question. Good evening.
[Mary:] Thanks for being here Machiventa. We appreciate your indulgence with that question.
- Master Spirit Number Seven:
Preamble: The questioner sees that Master Spirit Number Seven reflects the combined personalities of the Father, Eternal Son and Infinite Spirit. He presides as head over the other master spirits and is responsible for the oversight of the ascension candidates. The master spirits are a sevenfold expression of the Paradise Trinity. We keep in mind that we can’t discern God the Supreme in this universe age but we can discern our master spirit.
Question #2: Are we drawn inward towards the master spirit just as we are drawn inward by the spirit gravity of the Eternal Son?
Monjoronson: Good evening, this is Monjoronson. Thank you for this question this evening. This question draws us to an interesting observation and I have to say yes to your question because all spirit influence short of the central universe, the Isle of Paradise, draws you inward with its spiritual and spiritualizing influence. I am to remind you of the first time in your earthly lives you think of someone briefly like an interrupted thought and then shortly afterward you see them or they call you and you hear from them and it was like a pre-eminence of their actuality. What you experience is that the other person sets forth to meet you and you pick up on it in your mind because you are conscious. This action becomes real, it becomes a force within the universe. The intent of the master spirits or the Paradise Eternal Son or the Infinite Spirit are intentional forces which the intent does draw the mortal born seeker ever forward inward.
It is a tremendous paradigm that exists in the over watchful care of Paradise Deities for the correct and reverent and responsible functioning of the universes of time and space and all its inhabitants. It is difficult to express because it is a quantum. It cannot be expressed in very simple explanations yet the effects can be determined and felt even now in the earth plane you are in today at present. In your thoughts and meditations it is interesting to focus on these conceptual ideas and allow them to briefly expand their presence in your consciousness. Thank you for this question this evening.
Preambles in Submitted Questions:
Preamble: Thank you Monjoronson. The next few questions here concern the preambles that are associated with questions that we submit to you. The folks that harvest the questions and streamline them have a few questions and the preamble to that question is as follows. We have some questions regarding the preamble that often accompany questions. We understand that preambles are not always necessary with well constructed questions, however we find that they often have some use in determining prior knowledge and intention. In turn there are times during the selection and moderating process when we edit preambles for clarity or streamlining purposes. We are requesting some feedback from your perspective please.
- Transmitting
Question #3: Are you capable of perceiving additional information or insight about the author of the question beyond the information shared in preambles?
Monjoronson: Greetings, this is Monjoronson. It is good that this question about the preamble is asked because it is my understanding that the preamble helps to set up within the T/R’s mind a reference for the T/R to channel the information from me through the T/R. I am able to perceive much more information than I am able to transmit to the T/R. I must work with the T/R’s mind and intend while my intention going into the T/R pulls words and thought patterns from the T/R’s mind to access my energy signature. I am aware of much more than the T/R is aware of yet for purposes of these sessions, we work with the T/R’s to pass through information from a spiritual plane down into the human conscious level into the human plane of actuality as audio and printed words. Therefore the preamble is necessary in the erudite functioning of the T/R’s mind.
This may also lead to your next question, then what you are saying is we are limited by the T/R’s ability to access information. And my answer would be yes. On Urantia you are limited to what the T/R can access at that moment in his superconscious connection to a down stepped spiritual connection because we have to reach down as you attempt to come up and where we meet in this sense of connection. Where two minds meet, the mind of spirit and the mind of T/R, the ability of the T/R to access spirit mind and to access spirit consciousness results in the ability of the T/R to correctly transmit the information as it is perceived in that particular T/R’s mind. This is the analog version of the act of spirit/human communication. You may desire the more assured connection and rightly so. In time as man begins to grow and as spirit begins to reveal more, the connections will become greater. These primitive connections rely chiefly on faith and trust on the T/R and intent on the spirit end. Again, thank you for this question.
Question #4: How much do preambles affect the direction you take in responding to questions? Do the preambles now provide background information that might help direct you in your response?
Monjoronson: Again, my response is directly parallel through the response of the T/R.
Question #5: Would it be helpful if we did not streamline or exclude information from the preamble?
Monjoronson: The effort to edit for a more precise human concept is tremendously acceptable in presenting the background information to the question, both for myself and the T/R.
Question #6: Are there any other suggestions that you might offer us in the use of preambles when coming up with the questions we bring to you?
Monjoronson: In the preamble, the presentations up to date, the ones that have begun with the editing and selection process are in line with my intentions for this communication process to continue in there is not much to add as to the subscriber asking the question is able to reference the question correctly so that the information can specifically be targeted for the area in which the subscriber petitions the question. What I am saying is that some questions are vague and depending on the specific area of a vague question, it must be specified in the preamble. Other questions, some questions do not need a tremendous preamble but some questions do need reference. Also for the audience reading the responses to the questions, the preamble should set a tone both for the question and the answer. Thank you.
- Discerning the Spirit of Truth:
Preamble: This question is a recycled and reformed rendition of an earlier question regarding the ‘Spirit of Truth’ in an attempt to gain more clarity. We have noticed that oftentimes individuals insist that they have experienced an answer through the Spirit of Truth that is often perceived by others as inaccurate. An example of this is the adamant denial of your existence as our Magisterial Son claimed by those who say they have received this from Michael as the Spirit of Truth. For this reason we ask the following questions:
Question #7: What is [are] the mechanism[s] that may hinder one from accurately perceiving their Spirit of Truth?
Monjoronson : Again this is a tremendously vague and general question. The Spirit of Truth is a spiritual circuitry left by the Creator Son on His bestowal mission. The accessing of all spirit is conditioned by the human response mechanism. The human response mechanism is an organic and analog mechanism. It is an archaic mechanism. It is not an accurately perceived mechanism. This is not to say that all spirit induced transmission is not accurate, it is meant to say that the human reciprocation of receiving the information is not a tremendously perfect and accurate system, the same for everyone. It varies with the individual.
One thing is for certain. Mankind is at the advantage to have spirit comply with mans wishes and desires in his expressing to his brothers. This has always been the truth, even when Moses supposedly went up to the mountain and viewed the burning bush to receive the ten commandments which he meticulously carved in stone, he somehow forgot the most important commandment. So throughout mans history there has always been an aberration where the man/spirit connection takes place. This was why Michael Himself came personally to Urantia.
Even then, as you read in the recorded records made available to you by your own midwayer commission, still some will not respond to the words. Some respond in the way in which the words are meant for them to respond and then again others will take the words and bend them and do whatever manipulation is necessary to make them edify some human concept, just like the religion of Jesus has been turned into a religion about Jesus so that mankind becomes less responsible for his own spiritual development and then becomes enslaved to a belief system.
This goes to show that all spirit/human connection must eventually be personal. One should not rely, put ones spiritual worth in the belief of one transmitters answer. Always must one seek personally for the spirit influence you seek for it is just as easy to contact myself Monjoronson, Machiventa, Father, Master Spirit number Seven, Michael or Nebadonia, any other personality in the universe. This is all available to every one of you. It matters not whether you transmit but that you seek within to discover the truth for yourself because truth discovered will never be the same but all truths combined will work together, will fit together, they are all on the same page and if something is not truth, then before truth it becomes a mere shadow of a lesser substance until it vanishes. Thank you for this question.
Question #8: Is there any advice you could offer us on how to better make this connection with the Spirit of Truth so that we can check ourselves from misperception?
Monjoronson: The Spirit of Truth is a spirit which works where two and three people are gathered. The Spirit of Truth rarely works individually. I am not saying it does not work individually, I am just saying it rarely works individually. It is better perceived amongst the group for it is meant to be a group connecting spirit, a gregarious spirit. In this sense, the dynamic changes between an individual, communication with another person, communication with a third person and communication between three or more people, the dynamic changes. The dynamic of the Spirit of Truth is activated when the third person comes in, though it is also activated when a second person is there but the dynamic shifts and the activation is secure with three people.
The perceiving of the Spirit of Truth works through the individuals involved, through their effort to function and solve a problem and create a situation together which corrects their dilemma. This is necessary for the spirit of counsel to also work with the Spirit of Truth. All adjutant spirits work with the Spirit of Truth, especially the spirit of counsel. The multitude action of spirit, the varying circuits, the Father’s circuit, the Son’s circuit and the Infinite Spirit’s circuit all operate as a harmonizing effect. The effect of the Spirit of Truth amongst gathered men is also to create a harmonizing effect to augment the cooperative acknowledging, the reciprocal recognition, brotherhood, the spirit of men and women in a joyful reference. Thank you for this question.
Mary: Thank you Monjoronson, that is the last question we have this evening and we certainly appreciate you working with us and being with us as well as Machiventa‚s presence here this evening. Thank you.
