2021-09-20. Governance, Tyrannies, Maturing Democracies, Changes
New Era Transitions Planetary Manager’s Group #14, Machiventa
Planetary Manager’s Group #14– (Find this and previous PMG’s at: https://bigmacspeaks.life/)
Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager
Topics:
This is a Planetary Manager’s Group
One group yields consistency—T/R bias
Maintain a consistent perspective
Quality of life standard depends on your attitude
January 6th and the stages of democracy
Human motivation
The Marx experiment or the American experiment
Tyranny today
Moving from a Stage 2 to a Stage 3 Democracy
Calling forward those who can assist us
Weather cataclysms
Tremendous changes have begun
Hardheaded and stubborn
A wonderful combination
“Complexly admixed”
Be self-observing and think positive thoughts
Self-observation and ascending the psychic circles
Hope and the strong hearted, loving, and stubborn individual
The urge to do right, be compassionate, empathetic, and loving
We are all here to grow
From hope to belief, faith, trust, and knowing
You move toward Light and Life by making choices
TR: Daniel Raphael, PhD
Invocation: JT
2021-09(Sept)-20
This is a Planetary Manager’s Group
Machiventa: Good morning, this is Machiventa Melchizedek, your planetary manager. It is a pleasure for myself and my Melchizedek team and many others to be here to observe you, to listen to you, to understand your life, your situation, and how you are planning to fit into this new world that we are striving to create for you and future generations. Today I wish to speak about something that you have not asked about. Although you’ve asked many hundreds if not thousands of questions over the last 20 years, there seems to be at least one that hasn’t been asked yet, which doesn’t puzzle us, but it is kind of curious for us. And that is that you have not clarified (or at least discerned verbally aloud) that you see a difference between these sessions that we have here with PMG over the years and the other T/R’s and the other groups that meet. This has to do with teachers being teachers, and teachers teach what they know and what they have experienced and share that wisdom with their students. This is a Planetary Manager’s Group. I am the dominant planetary manager speaker, and therefore we talk about planetary management things. It is not that this group is in any way more advanced than other groups, it is simply that we have a convenient venue for our use to explain planetary management issues with you.
One group yields consistency—T/R bias
It is important that you discern this distinction. Many of you have wondered over the years why is it that this group in Colorado has a much different genre of topics than other groups. It is simply that this group has a mission to accomplish, and that is to work with us to understand the concepts of planetary management as it integrates with the Correcting Time program. It is convenient for us to use one T/R for this as multiple T/Rs bring in multiple perspectives that are due to the T/R’s own internal opinions, biases, and so on. By using one T/R to discuss planetary management issues, we can provide a consistency and the bias is consistent. We know there’s a bias with This One as you do, and so we take that into account, and we hope you do too—that you can discern the message that we speak from our team to you through This One. We hope there is not too much fog from this one’s personality that overshadows and infiltrates the message that we share. We have had a concern from other individuals around the world who wonder about this same phenomenon. That is the explanation we provide, and that is the simplest and most direct explanation we can provide to you. You can anticipate then that there will be more issues that come up to be discussed regarding the Correcting Time and our work now.
Maintain a consistent perspective
If you’ve been following this trend of topic for the last 5-8 years, seven years, you will see that there has been a consistency of the topic development around social sustainability, planetary management, and the need for corrective programs, and that is what the Correcting Time is all about. You are also aware that we have had almost no widespread public acceptance of the Teaching Mission, Magisterial Mission, and The Urantia Book program. This is as it is, and it is as it will be perhaps for a while. However, we do anticipate that there will be a rather sudden awakening that will occur for those people who are so aloof from their spiritual centeredness.
We have not been dismissive of those people who are spiritual but who do not frequent spiritual materials or intellectual aspects of spirituality. We accept that they are there, and know that they provide us with a resource—a reservoir of fence-sitters—who may come across to our side and who may contribute to our work. It is important that you (the readers and listeners today) maintain your own consistency of your perspectives. Whether you are aloof, whether you’re engaged, or whether you are totally red hot with interest is something that does concern us. It is not that we want to have over-avid people engaged in our work, but that there be a continuing flow of interest and well-meaning participation and thoughtful cognitive processing of the concepts and topics that we speak about.
Quality of life standard depends on your attitude
We have as well, as we’ve mentioned before, been waiting for the population of Urantia to become more open and receptive to alternative ways of living, life, and quality of life. Quality of life is central to everyone; however the focus of their quality of life differs greatly from those individuals who are very wealthy to those who are very poor. Quality of life can be equal for both, and both can have satisfying lifestyles and standards of living. Your standard depends greatly upon your attitude. If you have a wonderful, grateful attitude that God provides all to you, then you see that you have very little, but you are joyful in what you have, then you are right on the mark for being a recipient of much good in your life. Your happiness is your issue; your happiness is your problem. Your satisfaction with the quality of your life is one that we participate in. We strive to assist you to grow into who you will become in the morontial realm, that you were open and receptive to becoming a partner with us during your mortal sojourn.
Now, having opened the door to this situation—this discernment of messages between this group and many other T/R groups—I am open for your questions if you have any. Thank you.
January 6th and the stages of democracy
JT: I’ll start it off with a couple of reader questions. Jim says: Machiventa, thanks for taking my question. You have referred a few times to January sixth as a meaningful date. I was wondering if you could explain the significance of January 6 to you and your associates, and what it could mean to our immediate future. Thank you.
MM: This is Machiventa. Thank you for your question. The significance of January sixth is not necessarily upon democracy in the United States, but democracy in general. It is a highly inflammatory date, and what occurred on that date is inflammatory to many people, both in the conservative camp and in the liberal camp. However, for us, yes, we were quite startled with that date, and what occurred on that date in Washington D.C. at the capitol. It is significant to us because democracy, whether you like it or not, is one of the most developed and advanced forms of governance that is possible for humankind. It has great potential, but those potentials have not been developed yet.
The great dissatisfaction that you have seen through this insurrection that occurred in the rioting is evidence of much disgruntlement about the current state of democracy in the United States, and that discontent is also shared in other nations. But because of America’s cultural history of revolution and immigration from around the world to this democratic nation, that history has spilled over to the current time. Riot, revolt, and even revolution is not typical in all societies, but it is typical of democracies that are staid, traditional, and crystallized and becoming more and more obsolete. We have provided you with the thought and the concepts of a Stage Three Democracy that would be helpful to you to understand what is coming and why Stage Two, which is the stage of this democratic nation at this time, needs to evolve and transition to a Stage Three Democracy.
Human motivation
You see this all involves human motivation. Human motivation is towards freedom, is towards the self-determination of one’s life and you have to have freedom as an individual to do that. In a society you must have liberty—meaning that you have freedom that is under restraint by the codes of ethics and morality so that individual acts of freedom do not injure other people or decrease the effectiveness of their society. This is one of the truisms of human nature that every human who is of the old culture (meaning all of you) is wired to revolt against restraint—whether that is handcuffs, whether that is a jail, whether that is social obligations that are non-physical—you chafe against that. Human motivation wants you to be free.
Therefore, when we see events such as those that occurred on January 6th, this is clear evidence [that] something is amiss and has gone awry in this traditional democratic nation. The significance is that we—spirit—figuratively must get off our butts and provide the programs and more rapid initiation of those programs that will change this situation promptly and surely to ensure that social evolution does occur. We are not remiss, however, in preparation for this as there have been many contingency plans, and we are now involved in a more developed contingency plan than we had two years ago or more. Thank you
The Marx experiment or the American experiment
JT: Bill states that he has prayed on this and has been told that these are the words: “The cultural revolution appears to be between the Marx experiment and the American experiment. Does First Father have a preference of which to prevail?”
MM: Well Bill, in the tradition of your Creator God and Christ Michael, God and Christ Michael loves everyone, and we do not divide you into camps of one or the other. Thank you.
JT: All right, then we’ll go to Craig.
Tyranny today
Craig: Thank you. Good morning Machiventa. I thank you for your clarifications this morning. I think us old timers haven’t asked about the differing functions between groups because we (more or less) understand them, and I see a great synergy between all the various groups and teachings. I am kind of wondering, you know, I’ve been just watching in amazement as events unfold here on this planet, but I have been really disappointed in the tyrannies that seems to be being foisted on us right now against all kinds of reason and common sense, that economies have been shut down and people locked in their homes. And you can sort of see what seems to me to be the inevitability of famine owing to all the economic shutdowns and supply disruptions. Do you have any comment on that?
MM: Yes, surely, we do, and thank you for your observation of the synergy between this group and other groups. The tyranny as you call it is, in reality, the increasing dysfunction of the social-societal, the political-governmental and the economic-financial sectors of a society. It is particularly fluid in democratic nations where people have more latitude of actions individually. In other nations that are not democratic in nature, those are all controlled by the apparatus of the government—the dictatorship, the monarchies, the autocratic governance processes—and they are striving to also remain in balance. However, to broaden your view about autocratic and similar nations (totalitarian nations) they are coming to a crossroad where the burdens of a total dictatorial management of society is beginning to fall apart. There are too many parts and moving pieces to control and manage as they wish.
You will see evidence in the economy of large nations, particularly that of North Korea and China. You see that in the recent upcoming default by a large construction company is to the tune of $300 billion dollars. A default on $300 billion dollars will affect the world, and it will particularly reflect upon the credibility of that communist nation. There are other situations that are going to be more and more exaggerated. The tyranny that you speak of is, as I have said, almost environmental now in that it is part of the landscape of “modern” life. You see, while all nations are under this great illusion of being in control they are actually not, and the dictatorial, totalitarian countries have the fear of total collapse within their nations both in all three of those architectural structures of society. However, within a democratic society, there is the inherent capability to adapt, and this capability of adaptation is central to the survival of your species.
Moving from a Stage 2 to a Stage 3 Democracy
The problem now is how to change, how to invoke those adaptive processes and procedures into a Stage Two Democracy so that it moves peacefully into a Stage Three Democracy. The whole object of this evolution is to avoid societal collapse and societal collapse means that all functional efforts, actions, and processes within a nation begin to slow down and cease to exist. This is something that the democratic nations (this one, America, in particular) has not taken into full account. Perhaps your military leaders have as they plan for contingencies just as we have. It is important that people be open minded and part of the grizzly aspect of this time in a nation that is bordering on collapse is that people become more and more receptive to options of thinking, options of actions, and options for their future. As there is very little proactive planning for the care of a democratic nation that borders on collapse, we have the options to bring forward to assist those nations.
Calling forward those who can assist us
This stuff [dovetails] with my opening statements that there must be a startling opening, a startling shift that grasps the attention of those forward-thinking people in your society. We’re talking about consciousness. Those people in your societies that are aware of consciousness—their consciousness, the consciousness of a nation, and so on. You see it is time now to call forward those individuals who can be of assistance to us. What we have planned, hopefully, will do exactly that. I say “hopefully” simply because mortals have a tendency to confuse—intervene—in the plans that spirit has made for everyone’s good. We are not partial to one group, one caste, or one class at all. It is for everyone that we have our concern. What we want in these upcoming changes is a broad perspective that assists everyone to evolve as individuals and as families, communities, and whole societies. This is no small project that we are working on, and I say these things not as boast or grandiose statements of “perhaps,” but as something that we are working on and hopefully mortals will not interfere. Thank you for your question.
Weather cataclysms
Craig: Thank you for your answer. That’s very comprehensive. I have another question I’m just a bit hesitant to ask in that it’s an entirely different subject and that is we’re getting all these weather cataclysms all over the world and I’m wondering; is this more due to either just the general state of global warming and other more natural weather conditions? Or does it have more to do with what I see as the disruption of the global wind patterns owing to the seeding of clouds high in the stratosphere and maybe electronic weather modification techniques?
MM: I’ll be glad to address your statement and question. First of all, from your micro perspective, let me broaden your perspective concerning weather and global changes that are occurring concerning climatological changes. As you may be aware, the earth has a circulation of magma under the crust that also is circulating under Antarctica. It is increasing the substrata of the ice that interfaces with the rock below to warm it. This is occurring in many places as well. This is a natural occurrence that humans have not caused or intervened in. It is simply one of the natural patterns that develop over time in a planet such as Earth. This planet has a magnetic and liquid core that provides weather conditions on the surface and in the atmosphere through the electromagnetic waves that are part of the magnetism of this planet. This has an influence upon the radiation of your sun, this local star, and it too is changing. You—meaning all people interested in climatological phenomena—should not dismiss the natural causes of these tremendous changes and blame it all on humans. Your scientists have examined ice cores and so on deep within Antarctica and within the Greenland ice cap, such that they know that throughout the history of this planet and the history of the glaciation and ice ages that there have been tremendous warming periods as well as tremendous cold periods. These are all natural, and many of these occurred in the earliest eras of human species development.
Tremendous changes have begun
As far as human activities are concerned, yes, this has exacerbated natural phenomena to a great extent. Whether one accepts (no pun intended by the word whether) natural causes or human causes, you today must deal with climatological changes of the severe nature. Blaming it on people or blaming it on nature does not get you anywhere. It just becomes a gossip party between everyone and argumentation that gets you nowhere. You, as a population of planetary civilization must concern yourself about preserving your kind in the face of tremendous changes. These tremendous changes have begun, and they will continue to ramp up to become even greater than before. These will be terribly destructive and harmful to plant and animal and human existence. You have not yet seen hurricanes in the arctic and south pole regions, have you? It is possible to have wind speeds of 150 mph at 50° below zero temperatures. This would be devastating to the whole planet, yet this does occur on other planets, and it may occur on this planet. You as a species should be preparing yourselves for finding your caves (literally and figuratively) where you can reside in safety. Do you have further questions concerning my delivery here?
Craig: No, you have uh broadened my perspective very considerably, and I might have more questions later. But thank you for that broader perspective.
MM: You’re most welcome. Thank you very much for asking.
Rick: Good morning Machiventa. How are you?
MM: I am excellent. Thank you for asking.
Hardheaded and stubborn
Rick: Well, that’s good, and I would like to particularly thank you for your really eye-opening answers to both of Craig’s questions. Very informative, thank you. I have two questions. The first one is: During the previous session, you said “We have spoken to you before about the hard headedness and stubbornness of your species. You want it your way, and you will not change your minds and your will until your spirit is broken.” My question is: Is our Urantian human species different from other planetary species in this regard?
MM: We would say that you humans (Homo sapiens) on your planet and your hard headedness are an exception. Your species is not alone in this as there are some that are even more obdurate in keeping their position and holding their position even in the face of personal and community extinction. There have been species which have eliminated themselves from existence simply because of that quality. It is detrimental to your species when that hard headedness exceeds a certain limit of rationality. It is unintelligent. It is not logical; it is irrational to say the least. It is suicidal. That being said, to some degree the hard headedness is very much a desirable trait in a species—particularly on an experimental and experiential planet as Urantia.
A wonderful combination
Your species has developed out of the circumstances of this 10%-fold of planets around the universe [decimal, experimental]. This creates various and many opportunities, options for genetic change and development. What is consistent in all species on these experimental planets is that your Creator, via the life carriers and their laboratories, has instilled within you the capability—the urges—that will sustain you in the times of emergencies, that will assist your species to adapt to the circumstances, and to become inventive and creative in ingenious ways. It is important that the wisdom that Life Carriers gain from an experimental planet be used to the assistance of those 90% of planets and the species thereon to make them more capable and more God centered than they have been. A wonderful combination, of course, is the individual who is God centered, God conscious, who is inventive, capable, and adaptive. These are rare individuals indeed, but it is part of the process of generating and creating more improved species of soul survivors for all planets. I believe this answers one question. Would you repeat the question I haven’t answered?
“Complexly admixed”
Rick: I haven’t given the second one yet but thank you. Thank you for your thorough response. It’s very helpful. The second is a question about a quote from The Urantia Book. The quote is: [UB 111:7.4 (1223.6)] “The higher human races of Urantia are complexly admixed. They are a blend of many races and stocks of different origin. This composite nature renders it exceedingly difficult for the Monitors to work efficiently during life and adds definitely to the problems of both the Adjuster and the guardian Seraphim after death.” My question is: From this quote it seems very few humans are capable of hearing the leadings of the Thought Adjusters or their guardian Seraphim. Would you say that’s accurate?
MM: Yes.
Rick: And, you know, we’ve all been admonished to meditate and to guard our thoughts. Is there any other leadings or helpful suggestions you might have about how we…. I know I meditate, but I fall into the category that it’s very difficult for me, and I wish it wasn’t.
MM: Let me help you out.
Rick: Thank you. Thank you.
Be self-observing and think positive thoughts
MM: Let’s address the issue of the complex genetic background of most humans on your planet at this time. Yes, it is true that the pattern and plan of single races—identifiable races—that keep to their kind has been highly disruptive and so on. It is not that this is a bad thing in a moral sense, but it simply does not make it easy for your Thought Adjusters and guardians to work with you. It is basically what goes on in the substrata of a human mind is that the influences of the various races do play a part in how the mind behaves. For a Thought Adjuster and for a guardian to tune into the mind of a mortal, it would seem like the mortal was speaking on one frequency on the radio, changing to the ultra-microwave, and then switching back to 16 hertz speaking in a low bass voice.
The flipping between channels and flipping between frequencies makes it very difficult for your spiritual assistants to achieve communion with you. Therefore, we have been giving you and admonishing you to be self-observing, to monitor your thinking, and to dissuade you from thinking negative thoughts, but to persuade you to think positive thoughts. As a thought pattern begins, it can deteriorate to even more and more negativity and harsh and even violent scenarios in the mind of an individual. However, in minds that have been tuned—have been trained—by the mortal with the assistance of the Thought Adjuster and guardian, there becomes a persistent open channel with which they can communicate with you.
Self-observation and ascending the psychic circles
The individual who understands how to be self-observing, who is conscious of their consciousness, who is aware of it, and who wants to remain in an elevated state of consciousness is the person who can best proceed and progress in their spiritual evolution as a mortal. In fact, as a person begins to get more trained and skilled at controlling their mind and influencing their mind—the will mind upon the conscious human mind, the faster it becomes that the individual can ascend in the frequencies of spiritual communication. You can transit the psychic circles more rapidly, and the 7 adjutant mind spirits can more effectively do their work. Of course, the proof of this is evident to us as the human will mind approaches the lower levels of the morontial mind. There are numerous individuals who have achieved this, and they tend not to be politically oriented. Perhaps [this is] no surprise to you. They are individuals who are more Taoist, Buddhist, and mystical in their thinking both as Christians, Jews, Hindus, and so on. It is important that the individual want to be led—wills to do God’s will—not just simply to submit to God’s will, but wills to do God’s will and actively strives to accept the opportunity that Spirit gives them along the way in the time and duration of their lives. Thank you
Rick: And I would like to thank you for your beautiful and outstanding answer. Thank you.
MM: You’re most welcome.
Recca: Good morning, Machiventa. Good morning, everyone. I’d like to ask you, Machiventa, to loop around to your first opening statement about those coming to this conversation to address the topics of planetary management. To me that means stepping away from micro/daily happenings and looking at a much broader picture of the change and evolution of systems here on the planet. The ones that we can’t affect we need to set aside or keep in a sidebar like the magma reaction to the ice caps. Maybe we can affect our atmosphere by using less plastic if we’re going to do something _____. But I’m interested to have you connect this hard headedness that you’ve mentioned, and in the same set of paragraphs, you mentioned freedom. To me, we have to, in this conversation as apprentice planetary managers, come to an agreement among our mortal selves that we are not trying to rescue but to transform a planetary society. We seem to be in the process of socially adjusting many flaws that are handed to us on this decimal planet plate, and I’d like to ask you is there….
You’ve mentioned the seven circles of cosmic attainment or consciousness, you’ve mentioned the adjutant mind spirits. My question is: How is Christ Michael’s Spirit of Truth encircuitment (the bestowal of the Spirit of Truth at Pentecost) here to assist us now in this worldwide transformation of consciousness into a more tolerant and cooperative world in progress. I am extremely hopeful, and I don’t consider myself a super optimist; I just think that we’re making progress, and this is an opportunity now because of Covid and of deeper scrutiny of financial imbalances, wealth imbalances, and also the rise of the worldwide planetary communications system. We’re on the cusp, we’re on the beginning of this coming to the planetary table together. You can feel free to disabuse me of my optimism.
Hope and the strong hearted, loving, and stubborn individual
MM: Pardon my chuckling. You could make a good substitute for channeling myself. To answer your statements (many statements) we too are hopeful. Christ Michael is more than hopeful. He is expectant and anticipating wonderful results from our striving and you’re striving. It is difficult to address your broad statements. They’re as broad as all the things that I have covered, and to put it into one question or statement in response is at this time most difficult. Let me take a moment aside to discuss this with my team and come back to you in a moment. Thank you.
This is Machiventa. Let me address the plethora of issues that you’ve brought forward by saying this: It is the strong-hearted, loving, stubborn individual who is of great assistance to us. For us, meaning the Thought Adjuster, guardian, and those individuals who have influence in the individual person, are always working to develop strong individuals who are unwilling to bend. They are unwilling to bend to darkness; they remain persevering to the ultimate point of existence—that they will not bend or be swayed by other influences. You see, the same traits that are destructive to human civilization are tremendously an advantage to the individual when they consciously choose and can form an intention for their continued existence beyond the mortal realm into the morontial and into the spiritual and so on. Individuals who are of this stubborn, persevering nature regardless of the circumstances around them are the most powerful to make changes in themselves and with others.
To stand in the middle of a group as one among perhaps a 1,000 and know that you are an individual and you have confidence in your position even when those around you who are voting otherwise or shouting otherwise, you know that you have a way forward that works for everyone, not just a special group. The difficulty of working with mortals, Homo sapiens, on Urantia is one of the aspects of training that all celestial teachers of Melchizedeks and angels are given to help gird them and strengthen them to encourage their mortal charges during times of great travail for the individual and social difficulties.
The urge to do right, be compassionate, empathetic, and loving
You should know, Recca, that you and others have within you the means by which you can guide yourself to the morontial realm confidently, trustworthily, knowing that you have within you what was given to you by your creator to stand you in good stead for all the trials of life and living and to make right decisions that will carry you into the afterlife. These are innate to yourself—these urges of doing right, to be compassionate and empathic towards other people and to even love humanity generally is spectacular. It is remarkable that a person can do this. On the other hand, there are individuals who know nothing about empathy, compassion, or love. And so, we have deliberately addressed our teaching manner for the Teaching Mission, Magisterial Mission, and Correcting Time to the level of giving those who are willing to will in agreement with their Thought Adjuster to work with us. We will be calling upon those people to assist us. Truly, we do have hope for you. We do hope that you have hope in yourself as well. Thank you.
Recca: Thank you. Something occurred to me when you finished your opening statement, Machiventa, that the spiritual economy, the spiritual management group, wishes that we would just pay attention and stay out of our own way and just work with the higher spiritual program. Please correct me if I misunderstood your last sentences in this transmission.
MM: Yes, we would hope that you would stand out of your own way. That you would be behind yourself in confidence going in the right direction. It is the selfishness, arrogance, self-entitlement, and narcissism of individuals which cause them to turn the other way from light inwardly into themselves even if they do no harm to anyone. And the darkest place is within a person who has no hope or light of knowing God personally.
Recca: Yes, thank you for that clarification. I would like to bring forward to the table the idea that…. And that you yourself, Machiventa, since you were an emergency Melchizedek with your feet in the sand, on the ground, and in a physical body, understand the complexities of mortal existence. [If] we’re going to up step those to the 21st century instead of your era, but you have an insight. I would like to present the idea (or enlarge the idea) that we the mortals participating in the transformation of the planet have something to offer in return for the attendance that our spiritual guides and administrators have toward us. We have something to offer as still evolving mortals still searching, organizing as individual cultures, ethnicities, and as races as a slowly agglutinizing, yeasty mass of planetary culture. We have something to offer to you, your spiritual board of governors that you…. I don’t know if you can appreciate it or not. I don’t even think we can appreciate it. I think that’s what we’re here as mortals every day to help refine, to contribute to our planetary advancement. And I would like you to take into consideration the fact that Urantian mortals as the product—the 21st century product of the results of Christ Michael’s bestowal—are in a state of mind that has much to educate (or to amuse anyway) our super mortal compadres.
We are all here to grow
MM: I got it. Thank you. Yes, and what you have said, if I may sum it up, is that, yes, we are here not to be used by you nor are we here to use you. We are here as a complemental, mutual society of like-interested people in our own spiritual evolution. When you are conscious of this, you help yourself tremendously. We, of course, are in deep gratitude for mortal assistance to assist us individually to grow into our greater being. It is not that we are complete. Just, as you know, that God the Creator was perfect, God nonetheless was lacking in experience of living and becoming perfect. And so, we as individuals, whether Melchizedeks, angels of any order, or midwayers also, of course, are here as a journey of growth. And we are greatly appreciative of that. We will have time in the duration of our long existence to give this much thought as we progress from one assignment to another.
It is important that mortals also see this same possibility for themselves—when they see each new day as an opportunity for growth, as a challenge to their old beliefs, and in the development of beliefs that assist them in their spiritual, emotional, and social growth. When that occurs, then you grow. For us, there is the eventual and hopeful conclusion that we too are in Paradise, are in Havona—that we have achieved the growth that has given us the privilege of progressing towards the center of all that exists. Your insight borders on the profound, dear one, and we appreciate that. You have discerned correctly that we too have a mission of existence, and through our service to you we grow. And [in] your service to others, you grow. And so, by this extension I think that your questions, your statements have been answered. Thank you.
Recca: Thank you.
JT: That’s all the questions we have for today. Machiventa, do you have closing for us?
From hope to belief, faith, trust, and knowing
MM: Yes, most certainly. As we have taught you through others—other mortal teachers—you live in a hope continuum, and that hope leads to belief, and to faith, and to trust, and by way of experience to knowing. So, your hope now is your entryway to knowing that you are trusted by us, that you are loved by us, you’re loved by the Creator, and that we are making every effort to assist you to move from hope to trusting and to knowing. Your experience of life is that process of gaining the knowledge—the knowing—that you have achieved that status. The experience of living is your process of moving from hope, to trust, to knowing. When you anticipate this every day, and you expect that you will grow, you will. You have great insight into your life now, and you have great insight into the progress of your species. You have, on the other hand, the challenge of assisting others to grow along with you.
You move toward Light and Life by making choices
I might add in this closing that many of you wonder about your life, your species, your social existence, your lifestyles, and so on, and how will the Days of Light and Light ever come about. It can only come about by you individually transcending your life as a mortal into the life as a morontial being. You do that by making choices. How societies do this is another matter. Societies also go through this process of making decisions. What has not occurred on Urantia is that your mortal societies, whether by a society or conglomerate of individuals or design team or an individual who leads many others, have not taken on the chore of questioning your existence as societies and as organizations. You know as well as we do that there have been no societies, no nation, no cultures, no ethnic group, races of people, dynasties, and empires and so on, and so on, and so on that have transcended their existence. None are here today that came into existence over the last 20,000—30,000 years. You as Americans, you as people of democracies will also go the same route until you as a society make a decision to transcend your history of failure. That is the challenge you have to lead yourself into your future. No one has done that. It is time that that occur. These are thoughts for you to think about until next time. We wish you good day. Know that we love you, and we have tremendous hope for you as we know you have [the] potential to become great! Good day.
JT: Thank you Machiventa and thank you Daniel.
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