2011-02-17-Apple Pies and Reincarnation
Erethea #113
Contents
• 1 Heading
o 1.1 Topic: Apple Pies and Reincarnation
o 1.2 Group: ERETHEA
• 2 Facilitators
o 2.1 Teacher: Monjoronson
o 2.2 TR: Vince
• 3 Session
o 3.1 Opening
o 3.2 Lesson
o 3.3 Closing
Topic: Apple Pies and Reincarnation
Group: ERETHEA
Facilitators
Teacher: Monjoronson
TR: Vince
Session
Opening
MONJORONSON: Hello my dear ones, this is Monjoronson of the Spiritual Hierarchy here to talk to you about apple pies. If you were making an apple pie and wanted to serve it to your family or to a guest, you would need to understand the properties of the apple and the pastry and the other ingredients, as well as the method for preparing it and baking it; and if you did so, the end result would be a delicious apple pie.
Lesson
Like this example apple pie, if you wish to understand about your own lives, if you leave out one very important aspect of those lives, then the “apple pie” you would make from it wouldn’t be very nice. Here I am talking about reincarnation, for it is a subject not usually talked about, or taught, and many people find it very controversial; but unless it is factored into the equation, you cannot totally understand your existence and the whys and wherefores of that, until you understand reincarnation. So I shall explain it quite simply, so that if any of you are reading this and it is your first time considering reincarnation, then I hope you will begin to understand it from the simple way I shall describe it.
Let us start first of all with animals; we know that they are born by various methods, out of their mother in an egg, or out of their mother as a young baby. They live, they die; and when they die it is not the end, it is yet another stage where very soon they have another life, and then when they have finished that life, they have others and so on; and this is because they are created from spirit, and it has been described before as being a small scoop out of the same bowl of spirit as humans, and animals do evolve while they are in a physical body, but they also evolve spiritually as they move along from one life to another, from various species of animals, until they have learned so much that the time has come for their first human incarnation.
Similarly, the human has any number of incarnations from as low as about eight, to several hundred in a given time span and each time it is hoped that certain aspects of their character will be formed by each life and its challenges; so that the portion which has been incarnated then goes back and is incorporated into the spirit of the individual and another aspect of that individual is incarnated so that more experience may be gained in a different way, in both pleasant and adverse circumstances, for there is much to be learned. Most of you are a product of a number of incarnations and none of you are perfect. Perfection is always sought, but is very hard to achieve and takes a great deal of time. It cannot be done in just one life; it can be done or near perfection can be achieved over a very long time, in a great number of incarnations.
Only the physical body dies and you can’t take your money, or your power, or your possessions with you; but you can take all the experience you have gained, that goes back with you and you evolve spiritually, ever more higher, but there are often a number of adverse incarnations where because you may have done something bad in one of those lives, it has to be paid for and an adverse incarnation or more is required, so that the individual can understand why it was wrong in accordance with Divine Law to do the things that they did, for the only way to learn is by personal experience. So if you have injured somebody there is nothing like being injured yourself to understand what it feels like and it is the same with all aspects of things you have done wrong.
There is nothing like personal experience as part of an evolving soul, it is how you all learn, but throughout the world, science, business, the media, most religions, do not understand, do not want to understand, are not interested in, reincarnation; and if scientists study things in connection with the human condition, it could be a medical issue, it could be others; until you factor in that you have more than one life and that when you die only the body dies, you cannot understand anything totally, it is impossible.
Certain condescending astrophysicists have said that it is quite possible that there may be life on other planets. Well of course there’s life on other planets but because you can’t see something it is the human condition which says it therefore does not exist, and unless you look into the invisible world and investigate it with a truly open mind, and that does not require you to have a preconceived idea, the truly open mind will look at the invisible world and find that there is more there than meets the eye, it is the tip of the iceberg. After all, where do you think I am at the moment? You can’t see me, if you were in this room you would see this fellow sitting in a chair talking to a microphone.
Well of course, you would say, “he’s barmy; he’s talking to people who are not there, he’s making it up” and that is the problem. People are far more interested in the football results on Saturday than they are about finding out about their own existence, and the existence of the populations of the grand universe and your local universe, and the other planets in your solar system and the other solar systems in this universe; for there is life there, it exists. Can you see it, not at the moment for you are in a different dimension? You vibrate at a different rate and it’s not a very high rate. It is a fact of life that Earth is an evolutionary planet and is not high up the level at all, and so humanity is in a dense environment but when you die and you leave your body behind, you enter a world which in its way is just as concrete as the one you left except more so. The colors are more intense, the experience is so much more alive than the dark world you exist in at the moment.
People who have passed over, and have been able to talk to people still alive in the world you inhabit, always say “I didn’t believe that the colors would be so bright, that things are so real, I expected to die and there would be nothing, but there is everything.” It is more wonderful than the wildest of imaginations could dream up, for it is life; and then the time comes for the individual to learn some more, and then a meeting is held, suggestions are made as to what will be the best environment for the individual to learn that particular group of lessons on different subjects ,and then another incarnation takes place, the child is born and the only thing the child knows at that point, deep within, is that they are going to go back home from whence they came when their body dies, and that will complete another incarnation, and so on.
If you look at any single individual, they are not perfect, and some of them are as far away from perfection as it is possible to be; but that is only one facet of a complete being and the other nine-tenths or more of the whole individual exists in another dimension, out of your sight but still connected to the whole of what we may call their mind/ soul/ spirit complex. There are many other terms I could use, but this will suffice for my purposes of explaining it to you in simplified terms.
If an individual has behaved badly to others during the current or any number of past incarnations, then in some future incarnations they will have to experience adverse conditions, so that they may work off the negative karma in a practical way and learn to behave better. There are no shortcuts to this procedure and thus the charade of Confession; where an individual confesses their sins and are immediately forgiven by the priest, can only make matters worse. For if the person then thinks they have a clear conscience and are thus free to commit further sins then they are sadly mistaken.
Divine Law works in a kind of mechanical way, and the moment it is broken, even if the individual is unaware of it, then negative karma is attracted by the person concerned. Whether you believe it or not, Divine Law exists and so do the realms which are invisible to you at present, and to which you will return when this present life of yours is completed. So, it is well worth your time and energy trying to visualise yourself having arrived back home in those realms, and having your life played back to you on screen.
All of the good things you have done will be there for you to see, and there is no hiding from it and no false modesty either; for those things were very good. All of the bad things are also shown, and no amount of denial will alter the facts as to what you did, and in the final analysis the nature of your future incarnations are determined by how the past ones went, and what you learned from them. You cannot escape from this, and if you have harmed people, then you must expect to be harmed yourself in a future life.
God is kind and gentle, and loves you unconditionally, and when one of His children, for that’s what you are; becomes wayward and unruly He knows that there is nothing like a life of great difficulty for correcting these faults and the only way to achieve near perfection is to develop that within the individual being by practical experience. One single incarnation is greatly insufficient for this purpose, and so the educational path involves as large a number of incarnations as necessary.
A typical series of incarnations will involve materialized facets of that mind/ soul/ spirit complex being a man and a woman, having black, brown, yellow or white skin color; living in a variety of different countries and cultures; for anything less would be to deprive the individual of the opportunity to strive for perfection. On the basis of the average human lifetime being 65 years, for the sake of discussion, if the individual has 50 separate incarnations, then that is a total of 3,250 years alive in various human forms. In between those lives there is the time spent in the realms currently invisible to you and where you prepare for the next life on Earth; and although there is no time there, you may have missed a goodly number of spins of it sufficient for a gap of say, 50 or a hundred Earth years. Let’s take a gap of 50 years as an example, and say there were 48 such gaps, then that means missing 2,400 Earth years.
Therefore 3,250 years of incarnations, plus 2,400 years of preparation, comes to a grand total of 5,650 years dedicated to human spiritual evolution. Of course some people take a great deal longer than that with a higher incarnation count, and longer periods between them, and there are some who it seems have not the merest fragment of desire to seek their own perfection by spiritual evolution, and who therefore vastly exceed the 5,650 years I use for this example.
If you look around you in this world of yours, hedonism, corruption and greed are everywhere and many of those who are here to improve themselves seem to have forgotten the agreement they entered into at their reincarnation interview, and so have fallen off the path in yet another incarnation.
Closing
I have given you some pretty simple information from the most basic level I can, with the hope that those who read my words and who are unaware of the human journey through reincarnation will consider the points I make and use this as the launch-pad to go off and investigate the subject for themselves, as a greater understanding of it could save them a large number of difficult and wasted years in their future.
There is a very, very large number of people who have “died” who expected that once their lights went out, there would be nothing afterwards, for they had lived their lives on the basis that “you only have one life”. Well, it isn’t true, and all of them were surprised that they still existed; some pleasantly, but even more unpleasantly, for you then have to face up to the reality of the situation and there’s no hiding place. I am Monjoronson of the Spiritual Hierarchy bringing you this message through Vince. 17th February 2011
