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PMG7- Workshops, Co-Creation, Commonalities, Challenges

2021-06-14, Workshops, Co-Creation, Commonalities, Challenges

Planetary Manager’s Group #7 – (Find this and previous PMG’s at: https://bigmacspeaks.life/)

Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager

Topics:

Develop a working relationship with God’s presence within you.

We are also here, and want to co-create with you

Pragmatic expression of spirit

Improving the quality of life for others in service

Seven core areas of human experience and growth

The October workshop on team building

Accepting the indefinite

Ideal representation in a democracy

More on a political party across nations

Raising the level of the conversation

Attract the right kind of people

Our agenda is about co-creativity

Revealing the presence of the Celestials

Some will choose the nothingness

A base set of expectations

The greatest challenges

Establishing commonalities

Call on your spiritual assistance to light your path

TR:  Daniel Raphael, PhD

Invocation: Liz

2021-06(June)-14

Develop a working relationship with God’s presence within you.

Machiventa: This is Machiventa Melchizedek. Thank you for your presence here today. As I see you, I also have a very large perspective around the world, around Urantia, to view many people simultaneously—everyone at once and individuals in particular as I choose. We wish you to have the same perspective of yourself among billions of people—that you are one of many and that you have a personal relationship with your Thought Adjuster, and it has a very particular one with you. The acknowledgement of the God presence within you is a beginning place that follows faith and trust and knowing that God is in you.

And secondly, to then develop a working, functional, conversational relationship with the God presence within you is another step closer. That is an important one, and oftentimes it does take not just days, weeks, and months, but sometimes years and sometimes even decades. We know that for humans to accept the presence of spirit within themselves as an active, functional entity that they can cooperate with, coordinate with, and co-create with is spectacularly new for many people. Yet this is the truth of your personal relationship with a Thought Adjuster—the God presence within you.

You see, as we’ve said many times before, it is not that you have to beg God’s presence to be with you. We bid you to open your presence to the spirit within you. It is as simple as that. We have always proffered our presence to you. It is simply your option to accept or not. What [is] required to have any functional relationship with anyone is to have an awareness of their existence, to acknowledge their presence, and then to assert yourself into that presence so that you can begin a functional relationship. But such it is with the God presence within you, your guardian, your celestial teacher, and with many others. You have around you the presence of many who are waiting for you to accept this proffered invitation so that you can become a functional part of God’s Universe and Christ Michael’s Correcting Time. Whether you participate in that Correcting Time as an individual—alone by yourself without participating with others—it makes no difference to us. It is simply that you have offered yourself to be of service to Christ Michael, to Jesus, your guardian, and your Thought Adjuster. This is where we begin. This is where you begin.

We are also here, and want to co-create with you

Let’s take this one step farther now and we have proffered to you (“you” meaning everyone on the planet) the capacity to be in a functional relationship with us and what we are offering you is our co-creative energies to begin with you to announce our presence to the world—that we are here and that we want to co-create with you. And this is not just a simple, intellectual practice. It is not a simple devotional practice. This is a pragmatic, spiritual practice that we wish you to invoke in your life and to begin the process. You are seeing many people who are doing good in the world. You were seeing many who are taking on projects as you have never seen before. People are awakening to the fact that they are not just one, but you are one among many and many are available to you to participate with you in the energies of co-creation. Even other mortals are present with you to co-create.

This is an incredibly honorable time to be alive, particularly to be a believer and now you can, as most mortals like to do, they like to do things. You identify with doing—to enact activities to accomplish something. And so it is that we are opening this new era to the functional, pragmatic, practical relationship between spiritual entities, spiritual beings of the light, and you. You may say “Well, where do I begin Machiventa?” You begin by acknowledging that you have a relationship, you acknowledge that you have a willingness to do something with spirit, and if you don’t have a willingness to do something with spirit, then there is no harm in withdrawing from that. You simply believe and accept that spirit is here and that you are being guided along your life. You plan to graduate into the morontial realm eventually, ending your mortal career on this planet.

Pragmatic expression of spirit

So, you see, this is an opportunity for people who want to have what you call feet on the ground. This is where the rubber meets the road. Where people put a shovel in their hands and start digging. Many of you have been digging for years and years, and now would like to do something. You would like to build something; you’d like to express yourself in more pragmatic ways. You want your spirituality to express itself in more pragmatic ways, and not as outward efforts of piety or a demonstration of faith, but simply that you would like to see your world become more peaceful—more socially stable, families become more functional—able to raise children who are happy, and those children are able to raise their own eventual children to be happy as well.

Of course, that requires some definition to define what happy is, and that’s where many people in the materialistic realm of your world are lost. So, it is a matter of finding yourself. What we are seeing though is that there are many millions of people, whether they are rich or poor, who are awakening to the fact that the greatness of their wealth and their houses they live in does not get them happiness, does not give them peace, and does not improve their quality of life—they just simply have an abundance of quantity of life.

Improving the quality of life for others in service

So, you see, you are beginning to see what your neighbors are doing. You are part of this community—this community of the Teaching Mission, Magisterial Mission, Urantia Book, and so on. You’re beginning to see your friends in these faith belief systems where you actually visualize seeing them do something with their faith. They are engaging the improving quality of life for other people. It is not necessarily just going down to the soup kitchen and volunteering to ladle out soup on weekends. No, this is much more than that. This is you reaching out to improve the quality of life of individuals at the soup kitchen.

You may have a coloring program, teach people how to color pictures much as children do. What do idle people do? What do they think of? How do they keep themselves busy? How do they keep themselves from going what prisoners have called stir crazy—that you become so immersed in your own existence you’re lost to any intellectual, cultural pursuits. This is most unfortunate. So, when you think of improving the quality of life of some individual, at the soup kitchen for instance (and that is only a rough example of many thousands of examples), you would want to know what would improve your quality of life while you live in this situation. That is a very meaningful question.

They may defer to the materialistic realm, and we would suggest that you don’t reflect that, but you would engage them in a way that they would be steered around to the quality of life rather than the quantity of life. Of course, if it’s wintertime and they are in need of a quantity of warm clothing, you would most definitely want to fulfill that. People must be warm and well fed before they can begin to think of doing other things.

Seven core areas of human experience and growth

So, when you think of the traditional religious Christian, Hindu, and Buddhist traditions of service to others, you may see this now in terms of quality of life. This would have a great impact upon your immediate circumstances and your own self-worth. Many religions, churches particularly, parishes, temples, synagogues, and so on have lost their missions in life. They simply want to preach the word and not assist people to enjoy and improve [their] quality of life. What you want to do eventually is to bait the person you want to be of service to (or the organization) so that they finally ask, “Well, how do you improve your quality of life?” Of course, that puts you on the hot seat for many aspects of your life. And all the while, you were looking at these people, these individuals, impoverished people wherever they live in terms of the seven core areas of human experience and growth.

That would be the physical, mental, emotional, intellectual, social, cultural, and spiritual. When you want to be of genuine service to people, you would want to assist them in exploring one or two of these seven areas of human growth and expansion and development so that they could improve their quality of life. This is most challenging for you as a service person, a person who wants to be in service to others. Remember that you as a growing soul have your own needs to grow and to improve the weight of your soul. We have said before that you must make moral and ethical decisions, overcome those memories of hurt and pain in your life—to work through those—and then lastly be of service to others.

When it comes to the inner work—the intrapersonal relationship—improving the quality of life begins at that place too. To improve the relationship you have with yourself and not to be bedeviled by past memories of hurt and injury that you caused others or that were caused to you, is a tremendous place for you to begin to be of service. And of course, you want to address your own intrapersonal relationship first before you can be effective in assisting others to do the same in their life.

You know only too well and too often how many times we have spoken about the seven values and the morality and ethics that emanate from those values and of the growth that is needed in organizations. We have said before, years ago and months ago, that it is helpful to infuse organizations with these values—with that ethic and morality—and also now, to assist the quality of life of everyone who is connected with that organization—whether it is the officers of the organization’s board of trustees, the senior corporate staff, middle management, team leaders, supervisors, and the wonderful sea of employees who support the ongoing production of the work of that organization. How do you improve the quality of their life? Oddly, this COVID-19 pandemic has created an opportunity for exploring alternatives to the quality of life involved with employment—whether it is being a remote worker, in the corporate offices, or on the production floors of a warehouse, for instance.

This has made a difference in many people’s lives. Consider the quality of life that this has created. And for some it may be just the opposite—that it has created a lesser quality of life than before. Nonetheless, when you change people’s lives, you change the circumstances of how they react to it and how they react to their own reaction. People seek to have a stable platform in life to live upon. It is not meant to [allow] people to indulge their laziness or their unproductiveness. It is an opportunity to become productive, inventive, ingenious, and to express your individual ingenuity in many wonderful ways. Remember, there are seven spheres in which you can express that.

The October workshop on team building

The workshop that we had in May was a very intense workshop for advanced spirituality—for experiencing the practice of advanced spirituality. The one that we will be holding in October in Eugene, Oregon will be of a much different caliber—a different type. It is for those individuals who have been transformed by their own spirituality and those who wish to be of service (and those two categories are not necessarily combined). This will be teaching people how to do something practical in their local community, how to start a local community design team, to organize it, to initiate it, to enlist people to do team bonding exercises, and to then learn to teach the processes of the design team to individuals of potential teams, and then to actually sit down and figure out a problem among the five to eleven people, that they must go into that indeterminate phase where they have to work together, where they communicate with each other. This is an important phase of team building that is essential to the actual production of accomplished works later on. There are at least two occasions where there are indeterminate activities.

One is the team bonding—team building—and the second or third is the indeterminant, indefinite process in the team where the team is confronted with the issue of finding a topic, coming to agreement on a topic, and then beginning to work on the topic. There’s only so much that a facilitator of a workshop can teach the potential teams. It is important that teams attract those individuals who want to initiate activities that assist the quality of life of their own family, their community, their neighborhood, their city, state, and so on. This is a place where leaders come forward. This is a place where incredibly helpful followers come forward. And when I use the word followers, this is definitely not a demeaning position at all. Do not think that for once. It is the individuals who ask questions that are most important in the team—people who have that intuitive capacity and insightful and incisive capacity to ask questions which slowly dig deeper and deeper.

Sometimes the right question can cut through days of work of a team that is befuddled by what to do next or how to approach the problem. This is a time when there is a need for reflection. There is a synchronicity that can occur when people do take a break from the team and go apart. They might take a day off. They may go work in the garden, but through this process of reflective moments of restorative calmness in their life, they oftentimes come to sudden insights about what they were doing. This is the synchronicity of leadership that the leader—the facilitator—can see that the group is stymied, needs to move ahead, and perhaps needs to take a break from all of it.

Accepting the indefinite

You may think that, perhaps, we are overemphasizing these teams and the values and so on. We have been working with This One for over four decades. It is important that the investment that has been given by us is seen to be productive. We too have a need for seeing the productiveness of our efforts with individuals and groups of individuals. And we do particularly work with individuals who have the centeredness, the balance, and the grounded-ness to accept the indefinite. I chuckle, because this is the most difficult problem of being spirit led—those indefinite times where there seems to be no direction. But you are doing as the Zen Buddhist would do—you are letting that be revealed to you, and then you will begin.

If you have questions, I’ll be most glad to answer them. Thank you.

Ideal representation in a democracy

JT: Alright, I’ll start a question-and-answer session. I’ll start with some questions from Walt. He asks: “What ratio of representatives to citizens do you recommend as optimal?”

MM: Ironically, it is 1:1. I say ironically because a highly functional democracy chooses to accept the input of every citizen and proactively provides the means by which they can do that. A representative would be one who gathers the opinions and preferences and choices from those 1:1 relationships such that they can present a rational, necessary, proactive agenda of legislation to their state legislature or their house in the Congress that would make sense to a broad spectrum of other people in that nation. Thank you.

JT: And he asked you to please provide one or more examples of a successful process used to validate public sentiment in the context of individuals becoming very involved in their own governance.

MM: We have none at this time. Thank you. We do invite you to begin though, Walt.

JT: All right. He asks: “What practical ways can we approach validating the morality and ethics of our government’s conduct?”

MM: This has been given to you numerous times. You are well acquainted with the social sustainability schematic for design and validation. The same instrument can be used to validate the ethics and morality of the behavior of individual elected officials or appointed officials. This would follow the same process as a design team process. This would be a design team process oriented towards moral and ethical questions. The process is the same, but the genre of questions and issues to be examined would, perhaps, be different. Thank you.

More on a political party across nations

JT: Walt says, “You said in your last meeting that there will be a public political party of the people across nations. Does that refer to a grassroots version of the United Nations? Please clarify and or elaborate.”

MM: No, it would not be an organization such as the United Nations or any other similar organization. We are inclined to think that eventually there would be individual local community political parties that are interested in soliciting and gathering public opinion preferences, choices, and so on concerning multiple issues. And that in the eventuality of work that these local design teams do that there would be reaching out to other teams in other communities whether that is locally, or in a city, or state, or nation, or across nations. You see, the immature perspective of human existence is that you are all separate and that your nation is separate from other nations, and that you have nothing in common with you except how we can make money with you or from you or together.

The reality is that humans are basically all the same. They all have the same basket of needs and value interpretations that emanate from the seven core values that every human has within them. This is the bonding element that ties your political organizations, future political organizations, and their legislation together. When nations and states begin thinking in those terms, they will begin thinking and solving common problems and attune to each other at the individual basis for resolving those problems. You are seeing even today in the G7 and the other forums of nations where there is identification with each other, but there is a difference of opinions about topics and issues.

Of course, what it will take is the consciousness of some initiators—some grassroots starters—to begin this process. It is something that definitely has a great future to it, and the calamities, catastrophes, and cataclysms of the present era (which will continue) will force these groups to work together [rather] than separately. You can become more powerful by joining the forces of two individuals than by two individuals working apart. It is that kind of synergism which necessity will bring forward to humankind. Thank you.

JT: And his last question is: “You stated, ‘It is important that the authority of the public be balanced with its responsibilities.’ Please provide concrete examples of both positive, effective ways the public should exercise authority, and what are the responsibilities necessary to balance the exercise of authority?”

MM: I have given you the answers to that question in the two former questions. Thank you.

JT: Thank you. This is Recca. Good morning Machiventa.

MM: Good morning Recca.

Raising the level of the conversation

Recca: It’s different to be with you in this format. Thank you. It’s hard for me to write down a question before I speak it. So let me ask this. [During] our last election cycle, I was prompted to examine the precinct distribution of votes at my precinct level here in Oregon in my county. I also belong to a community club which is mostly rural activities. I also belong to a town soup kitchen sort of community club. I belong to several different areas of my interests. I also sing music in a public space. Are you speaking in terms of co-design community teams taking aspects and membership in each of these individual groups and raising the level of the conversation to the quality of our group memberships? Is that how we affect these changes now on our own levels?

MM: Thank you very much for your thoughtful question. The answer is yes. Yes is always a good place to start, and you would want to look particularly for activist people. If you have an activist group that you belong to, then you would want to assist them to improve the quality of their activism. Simply holding a rally, overturning police cars, and burning the fronts of buildings is very much a demonstration, but it is socially irresponsible and highly immoral. What you would want to do is to begin working or suggesting with the inner workings of an organization whether they would be interested in learning more about a process for making effective choices and preferences that would work well with other organizations and groups.

Attract the right kind of people

Most organizations do have a self-centered agenda. They want to show others that they are effective so that other people will join them and will donate their money to it so that they can make bigger placards, rent bigger spaces, rent tables and chairs, and so on to hold these rallies and groups. You would want to work with individuals who have the leadership capability to want to appreciate what they can do more effectively. Unfortunately, you will find many individuals who take ownership of new ideas and who deny that using them would be worthwhile. They want to double down and try their efforts at their old processes more strongly. When you see this occur, then you have hit a brick wall, and your efforts would fall upon deaf ears. What you are looking for (just as you have been attracted to this forum and to the work that we’re doing with many here) are people who are open to receive—people who are curious, people who are minded, people who have a sense of the wholeness of life rather than the selfishness of one organization.

And yes, those individuals are rather rare. Whether it is in a huge political party or whether it is in an office improvement committee. You want to attract people who are willing to listen. If someone is always taking the floor and dominating the discussions, then that person, surely, would not have time to listen to what you’re doing unless there is a self-interest involved in what you present to them. There are many limitations working with mortals on Urantia—particularly in organizations. They take ownership of what they’re doing—they have invented the wheel and they don’t need any spare tires. So, many innovative individuals would find that they are socially rejected and their ideas alongside them. We are hopeful though because we have attracted you. You are one individual who meets many of those criteria and you have come forward. And so, this is not impossible. There are capable, caring, compassionate, empathic people who have the intellect and character to lead others forward in a direction that is productive for humankind. Do you get my drift so far?

Recca: I do. I do understand what you’re saying. I also happen to know myself fairly well, and I am all of those things, but I’m also lazy and unproductive. So, it’s sort of a wash there. My experience has been that dropping a word in a conversation or bringing two people together with myself as a third party who are interested in accomplishing service is that 1:1 ratio that you’re talking about. It is a 1:1 exchange of ideas, uplifting of those ideas, and improving or contributing to the goal of community. Yes, I understand what you’re saying. Thank you.

MM: Do you have other questions Recca?

Recca: Not today. Thank you.

Our agenda is about co-creativity

MM: Thank you. This is Machiventa. This is addressed to this team and to the audience. Do you see the direction we’re going? Do you see the long preparation we’ve made before we began this stepping out into the field of pragmatism, of social evolution—how to create social evolution in the various social institutions. We want you to be comfortable with that. We are not cloistered. We do not have deacons, we do not have priests, and we do not have organizations. We simply are working individually with each one of you as you choose to work with us. This is the main emphasis of your work and our work, and it is what Christ Michael has deemed necessary to heal your world. That agenda is solely about co-creativity—to garner the greatest wisdom of mortals through the process of evolution and the healing of your world in many ways. And of course, this will take time. Thank you.

Revealing the presence of the Celestials

Liz: Good morning Machiventa. This is Liz. It’s wonderful to be with you today. I’ve had many distractions here. And so, I hope I’m not asking a question that you have addressed, although I could be. Last time you said you wanted to make it known eventually that you are here—that your team is here. So, I’ve been thinking about that and how I might in my daily discussions with people impart that information. For example, not long ago I was with dear friends and we’re all getting older, and they are older, and we were talking about death. And he mentioned that he believed that after death there was nothing, and he is happy with that frame of reference—that when he dies, he will go into darkness and that will be the end of him. And in the past, I have said things like, well, that’s okay because I have enough faith for both of us, but that hasn’t always been well received. So, I’m wondering if there is an opportunity in discussions like this for me to reveal your presence or how I could reveal your presence, or give them a different idea about their impending, eventual deaths?

Some will choose the nothingness

MM: Thank you. Let me ponder that a bit with my team. [Short pause] In the event of a person you are speaking with who believes that there is only nothingness, then you could give them solace in the fact that this is the “void” and that this is a desirable place where Buddhists always hoped to go to in their meditations. However, there is the nothingness, and if a person chooses the nothingness, then they have chosen the nothingness. They will, however, be confronted in the morontial realm and the resurrection halls with that ultimate existential decision of whether to continue on or to refuse to do so. The refusal to do so means that they have assigned themselves to the nothingness. The choice is theirs. It is an eternal, moral choice. If you can grasp the profundity of that choice in that statement, you have grasped then the great dilemma we have in working with the decimal planets and particularly with rogue decimal planets such as Urantia.

Nothingness is not desirable as it means that there is a place where they want to go where there is no God. And it is not an intellectual decision that they’re making because they have no awareness that God truly does exist. Your efforts to convince a person in the mortal form that there is a God, or there is a Machiventa, or there are other Melchizedeks, or their guardian angels is a fruitless endeavor dear. You should just accept them where they are and tell them that you love them as they are, where they are, and please do not take a self-righteous position by saying “Oh I will pray for your soul.” That is just so much BS as you know. People do not accept that and have no regard for it, and, in fact, you will be causing aspersions and disrespect to be cast upon yourself. Rather be of great benefit to the individual silently, and in the great space of humility [where] there is no ego, but there is simply love. Thank you.

Liz: Well, thank you for that. I appreciate it. These people have been damaged by their religions, and I understand that they have forsaken all ideas about God. But it hurts me because I love them so much. So, okay. I understand how I should proceed in those situations, and I thank you for your answer.

MM: You’re most welcome. As Jesus said, be of good cheer. Everyone wants to see a smiling face. Thank you.

Stéphane: Good morning Machiventa, this is Stéphane. How are you today?

MM: I am very well, thank you for asking. I am in good health.

Stéphane: Good. Well, it is beautiful sunshine in the area where I live, so fully living in the vibrations of life today. And it’s getting better.

MM: Wonderful.

A base set of expectations

Stéphane: So, earlier in your statement you mentioned your expectations for the group are quite broad. We can choose to work co-creatively amongst each other in this workshop in October or individually. Even if we don’t choose to work in a co-creative sense, then this is fine too—you just want to listen to the message and think about these things that is just as well. So, what I want to ask you is what is your expectation for a best-case scenario? I know we can now be doing as Jesus was doing, but what would be your recommendation for a best-case scenario for each team member on this call and those who listen to it or read it online? Will there be a base set of expectations?

MM: Yes, and again, very broadly, our anticipation is that those individuals would will to do God’s will, and then demonstrate that in their lives by their own personal decisions about their personal life and their business relations. This is the beginning. The expectations perhaps are far too low—that there would be expectations for your attendance, for your thoughtfulness, for your knowledgeability of what we have provided you with over the months and years. Our expectations could be great, but they are very simple. One is to will to do God’s will in your life as you’re able to and as needed and to continue your growth and learning and so on.

We would anticipate that if you are curious and you want to expand your intelligence and your character and capability as a social creature in humanity, that you would learn how to work with others. And working with others can take many forms (as you know) from being a stern and archaic dictator, supervisor, manager, and corporate head to being a benevolent teacher who leads people to do the right thing by their own example and by answering questions of the curious student. There are many ways to work with others, and we are suggesting that, first of all, mortals on Urantia need to work with each other.

As you have seen for many families, families do not make good working teams. I think it works better when there is very little history between individuals and that they are able to discover each other and to find those commonalities and find their common motivations, common goals, and particularly a common means or technique for working through problems and situations. We do not teach people hysteria. We do not teach people chaos. I would not teach people how to be an independent intellectual in a group setting working with others as then you have out of 10 people on a team, you would have 10 separate teams, which is fruitless and useless. So, we teach cooperation.

The greatest challenges

The greatest challenges that you have in the universe are to cooperate with God within and to aspire to fulfill Its goals for you. And even Its expectations are low, though those expectations are continual and are of continual influence on you to make decisions correctly day by day. Learning to work with others is essential to your ascendant career. You will never in your ascendant career (outside of your mortal era) work alone unless you have ascended to such dimensions that you are a Solitary Messenger and so on. There are individuals who do that, but they’re always connected with eternity and with the central administration of the Grand Universe.

So, the first chore is to be willing and wanting to find commonalities with others. We would hope, eventually, that people would even like others, and that they would want to get to know them better. So, this is the process of friendship that you have heard about and read about in The Urantia Book. Before you can love your neighbor, you must love yourself and become friends with your neighbor. So, these are our low expectations which would contribute to huge advancements in the evolution of your world and particularly of your social structures. Thank you.

Establishing commonalities

Stéphane: Thank you. [About] establishing those commonalities with people, there’s a stronger sense every day to me that I need to establish [commonality] with everyone I meet [regarding] the faith part of me, because that is the basis for establishing commonalities and finding out whether the person I am conversing with has a similar faith where we can at least have a spiritual basis for further discussion. And that’s not always easy to do.

MM: This is Machiventa. You’re totally correct and that is not easy to do. It is oftentimes best not to do it first off, but to give time for the friendship to develop where trust can become evident, and eventually you would be able to KNOW that the individual holds your esteem and your regard as an intimate contact—that they will not violate you. And most of all people want to know that they are safe, and that if you want to establish a spiritual relationship with them, you must establish a safe emotional relationship first, and a safe social relationship as well. Does this help?

Stéphane: Yes. Thank you. And as a group, how are we doing with the progress in recent months?

MM: Are you referring to this PMG group?

Stéphane: Yes, absolutely.

MM: Yes. You’re doing well. You are making wonderful strides in developing your teamwork, and you find that you have more commonality than you have differences, and those things are what you build upon. As you know, this is not a clique, it is not an elitist group. Yes, it is a chosen group for we have need of a working team who will work with us and who are willing to bridge the quirks and idiosyncrasies of some of their fellow team members to pursue the greater good of Christ Michael’s work on Urantia. Yes, there is great accomplishment [that] has been fulfilled yet [there is] much more to do.

As you know, the growth of a human mortal is infinite and that when you accomplish one stage then you are given another stage and you continue on. You may want to know as well that we have given you several eras of soul growth, and one is to overcome the sometimes-deadly traits that you learn as a child in your family, from other people who express those, and that you then must develop a model for your wholeness and your completion that is apart from that which is helpful, constructive, and loving.

The next part is to then observe yourself in that process to overcome those negative, destructive deficits in personality and in character. And that you wish to become a greater individual by becoming more humble. These are basic tasks, and once you have accomplished that, then you enter into the realm of service—to the service of others. We have stated this numerous times in years and decades past. From there you learned that there is a greater good to be had as well as you ascend in your pre-morontial career as a mortal. You begin to feel the presence wherever you go.

You are conscious of your being, you are conscious of your presence, and you are conscious of your projections to others and that others are sensitive to what you project whether you are conscious of that or not and whether they are conscious of it or not. So, you move forward in unconsciousness to be the greatest good you can as a living individual. As you know, the greatest good a person can express are those actions and those thoughts which are unconscious to them, but which are benevolent to others. In other words, you’re ascending in the scheme of love of others, including yourself. And this is not a selfish, narcissistic love, but one which is most generous as Jesus had expressed in his lifetime. Thank you for asking.

Stéphane: Thank you so much.

JT: That’s all the questions we have for today. Machiventa, do you have a closing?

Call on your spiritual assistance to light your path

MM: Yes, this is Machiventa. I have a brief closing for you. In many ways, mortals on this world who are also believers are metaphorically spelunkers—people who like to explore caves. Now it is one thing to explore a cave at nighttime without a flashlight or in the daytime without a flashlight deep in the bowels of your earth and doesn’t that whole scenario change tremendously when there is someone in front of you casting a light upon the path to take. And the best path you can take is out of the cave of darkness (this might remind you of some ancient philosopher) and into the light.

And so, you call upon your spiritual assistance, your Thought Adjuster, your guardian, celestial teachers, and others to be of assistance to be the light—that they cast the light upon the path of your life plan, and they guide you through the vicissitudes of life and its challenges so that you grow and survive. It is not only necessary to grow but also to survive those challenges of growth. You are a desired individual in the universe. You have much to contribute and we want to keep you safe so that we and the universe can enjoy your presence in the morontial realm, spiritual realm, and the eternal realm. And we thank you for accepting the challenge. Good day.

JT: Thank you Machiventa and thank you Daniel.

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