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LLN181- Perspectives

2008-08-14.  Perspectives

Lightline #181

Topic: Lightline Teleconference

Group: Lightline TeaM

Teacher: MichaelThought Adjuster, Monjoronson

TR: Mark Rogers


Prayer: Please join me in a centering prayer if it is your desire as well. Divine Parents, once again we return to the well. We come back to have our cups filled with truth, with beauty, with goodness so that we may drink to the full of this experience. We appreciate the efforts to bring us the emissaries of light, yourselves, Monjoronson, Light, the others who have volunteered so generously to assist us in this process of upliftment. May we arrive at this place with a cup ready to be filled, with a willingness to receive into our cup and with an intention to take it in and embrace that which you would serve us in this process. We ask that you join us, that you too drink of this cup with us and be with us in this moment, in this hour as we circle up together and then remain with us close enough that we can feel your presence in our lives. We come before you this evening and we would ask Monjoronson, Light or any other celestial personality who would wish to address these questions. We are certain you hear our petitions, please help us be certain in positioning ourselves to receive your responses. Let it be so, let us make it so together even now.


Michael: Greetings my dear ones, it is I, your Father, your Brother and even your friend to address you. I am aware that there was a question offered as to the differentiation between my presence with you in this forum we both enjoy in this moment and my presence within you as the Spirit of Truth that I have bestowed upon you and I will endeavor to make such a distinction. My Spirit of Truth which is a free gift to all sentient beings who are involved in the ascension career is freely broadcast out to all, even I might add, to those who are not with us on this world but who reside on other of my worlds as well.

This Spirit of Truth or affirmation is my desire that you each and every one has a means whereby you can receive my affirmation directly and internally unencumbered by translation, time or space, and so I bestow this Spirit of Truth upon you each one that you may have within you a means to validate and check up on the relative truth of all that you interpret in your external world. If you will practice stillness you will find Me there awaiting your gaze and seeking your attention and in this place that we will share together, I will bring you the affirmation of the convictions of your heart and if there arises inconsistencies or incongruities in your interpretations of external or even internal factors, I may as well provide you with inspiration and bring you perhaps a different perspective to see the equation from.

This I do individually and directly so as to avoid all other avenues of approach. Their need not be any third party involved in this circuitry, you need not ask another or rely upon anothers connection but rather simply look to develop the one which I assure you we have. This stands in contrast to what you are observing in this moment. In this moment I have developed a partnership with an individual whose skills provide Me with the means whereby we may establish this rather crude connection; that is, there are many factors involved in this connection and working in partnership always means compromise but I am eager to engage in such partnerships because life necessitates relationship and partnership and I will gladly accept the limitations of my partners at any time if they will choose to willingly engage with me in such a partnership.

But you well know that anything that is of human nature or of human source is by its very definition limited, and so since I utilize this human in this moment as my partner, I gratefully accept the limitations inherent in this partnership for the chance to have this partnership and for the chance to reach to you in such a way, limited as it is. We must be content to work within the parameters we have at any given time and we must be willing to use whatever means are at our disposal to make this connection but recall, I have said I can bring you the needed affirmation internally to discern the appropriateness of any given interaction for you as an individual. So while a technique such as we use in this moment may be employed, there is as well the back up safety, if you will, of my Spirit of Truth to verify the authenticity of any given message.

So in this way we enjoy two distinct avenues of approach, one intimate and internal, and one external and laden with the human element but you are certainly wise enough to discern that this element is present and to take that into consideration as we do the best that we can to establish this spiritual/mortal liaison. It was said that I have the ability to be everywhere and anywhere, even all at once and most certainly I heard your petition and was drawn to your sincere quest for understanding and I will always respond to your sincere request for interface, for understanding, for a simple sharing between us.

If you originate this request you can be most certain that I will receive your message and as I have promised many times before, I will respond. When you knock I shall open the door, when you seek I shall be there to help you find. Do not hesitate to seek, do not hesitate to knock, do not hesitate to call on me for there are no illegitimate reasons for such actions. Thank you for your thought pattern which provided me the opportunity to interface with you even now.

I will stick around with you and we will talk about other issues I heard you mention. There was the question about the relationship of healing and healers and we will discuss this for a moment. As you all know you have witnessed in your lives, certain individuals have raised their relative skill level and awareness levels to a point where they command some control over the various energy circuits which are part of your overall combined being to the degree that they are able to exercise some influence over these.

You have health practitioners of all sorts who specialize in this energy circuit or that energy field or in your medical profession who specialize in causes and effects and symptoms and diagnosis. It is quite true that there are individuals [who] with earnest application become known as healers because they have enough mastery over enough of the involved energies to be able to manipulate certain energy patterns and fields and restore to an individual a sense of balance and wellness. But you also know that no one can be healed against their will and likewise, for those who have enormous faith, they can be healed of almost anything.

So when you observe the influence that the individual has over the equation you must come to reconcile that they are as much an active participant in the equation as is any external force or healer. So therefore you are growing in realization to embrace the reality that there are a number of different levels of involvement going on by perhaps different individuals and this combination of influences tends to show up for you in either a healing that is successful of not based upon your perception of it. You are indeed growing in your awareness that this is a complicated equation because of the number of factors involved and that the primary factor of all, the free will choice of the individual seeking healing, reigns supreme throughout the entire equation.

You are severely limited in the scope of your perception when you make judgements as to whether healing was successful or not based upon your limited perception of the results of these efforts for there are bigger and bigger pictures to see this equation through and greater and greater perspectives to be used to witness the many many factors at play and what you might perceive from the outside as a less than successful result for your efforts at attempting healing may in fact be exactly what the universe has ordered to accomplish a greater healing that you are unable to perceive.

To you it may appear as though the entire program is contained in the simple operation of relative wellness of the individual but as you migrate up the ladder of perspective you can discern that many of the factors at play are not discernible in the time/space realm that you inhabit and so what you would pray for or hope for may in fact not be what is needed or what is in the best interest of the individual. But it does not hurt you to pray and hope and try to the best of your awareness level but in the end the only real prayer of significance is not one of the details of any given case but of the overall will of the divine being implemented.

So you would do well in your efforts to counsel others and to engage in healing petitions to simply petition for divine will to take over and bring the necessary aspects to the equation because frankly, from your perspective, it is not possible for you to see what those might be. But your very act of engaging in this process is a potent force for change, albeit you may not appreciate the change at any given time but time and greater perspective will provide you with the ability to look back in hindsight and see that in fact all exercises that are extensions of faith, such as these, meet with certain success even if that success is not apparent to you in any given moment.

As to this notion that mankind seems to hold on to that they need those others who are deemed healers to assist them in this process, great progress needs to be made in these realms to free individuals from these bonds of thinking and allow them to embrace that they are self contained when it comes to the same connections to spirit and healing forces as are others who they deem to be healers. In this way mankind certainly does need to take more responsibility for their own welfare and well being. It is not healthy to always assume that you need anothers assistance to be made right. But in so far as this is helpful, it can be utilized, as imperfect a process as it is but it is strictly not necessary from the higher perspective that I offer you now.

I thank you for your consideration of these matters. I am able to witness the unfolding of your awareness as the petals of the flower greet the sun and it is truly a joy to witness this as you have sprung up from the fertile soil of time and space and are now in the process of unfolding yourselves into this dimension in full glory. I would conclude my remarks there but I cherish these opportunities to be with you in whichever fashion we may utilize. Know that I am there with you always, awaiting your glance and your gaze in my direction. I am as well, within you to be consulted as this Spirit of Truth that you refer to and in so many ways I look for these avenues of approach between us and when you look as well we may find them together and utilize them. So continue to knock and I shall continue to open the door, farewell.

Monjoronson: I greet you as well, I am Monjoronson. Like you I enjoy basking in the glow of the Creator Son. Truly we are all blessed to be basking in each others glow of spirit and peace and love together. I would accept this invitation to join you this evening and I would bring forward another question or petition for further discussion on the influence of time and the material experience and in perhaps an unusual turn of events I will ask my partner, my mortal associate at this time to step forward and share some personal observations that were made as a result of a previous discussion on this interface of the mortal time/space continuum.

Mark: Okay, this is Mark. I accept the invitation as well. I recognize that I am a partner in this process and so I assume my role as such now and step forward. I was struck with Monjoronson’s analogy of the time capsule and how the individual within the time capsule can project with his time capsule in the direction of their choosing and wherever they get out or stop on their individual time line they arrive there and that location where they are, where their consciousness is, is in fact where they are.

I went through some mental exercises trying to reconcile this truth and was afforded a series of experiences in which for instance; in consideration of this aspect of where I was in relationship to myself, my physical vehicle, I was at once triggered into a memory thought pattern, an experience I had with a neighbor some years ago and I my experience was so vivid and real that all of a sudden I found myself being jarred or snapped back into my physical being and realizing that I had not been present where my body was. I had not been there observing, I was in fact in the past, I was in fact observing a past experience and my consciousness was fully there in observation of that experience.

I was in fact reliving that and when I was suddenly catapulted back into my body it was a jarring experience to realize that I had not been there, I had been someplace else. I had another experience where Mary and I had hiked out to a nice outcropping. We had a wonderful meditation sitting side by side and in this experience I was so into a meditative experience and state that I was completely unaware that a small plane had flown directly overhead and any other time I would have been interrupted, perhaps annoyed by the disturbance of the force.

Mary sitting next to me realized this had happened and, she had one experience. When I came out of this meditation she informed me that this plane had flown right over us and I had not heard a thing, I wasn’t there, I was gone. It was again a jarring experience to realize that I had been somewhere. I think we all have had this experience, we call it spacing out or projecting perhaps into the future or and event which may or may not happen but we have lived it, gone there and been observers which may have been in the past, maybe in the future but that is where we were, where our consciousness was, not where our body happened to be in that moment.

This opened up a whole area where I thought, now I’m starting to get it. We can project ourselves either way on our time line and as long as that is the focus of our consciousness then literally we are there. We have transcended time in this way to be there and we all know this when we go backwards in time and we are encapsulated in a memory that it seems to be so real, it seems to be right there just like it was when in fact when we come back to our present location we realize that was a memory of a past event that has already happened yet somehow or other we were there.

So I share these observations and I welcome Monjoronson’s interpretation or any comments he might make to these observations.

Monjoronson: Thank you for accepting my invitation and so graciously providing of your personal intimate introspections about your growing awareness of your interface with time. There was purpose in my asking you to come forward and share. You are involved in the human thought pattern stream and so where your mind goes is part of the material realm. That is why it is a potent force when you between you and among you share your individual thought patterns because they are of your realm, your dimension in time and space and materialism.

They are easily adopted and accessed by others who are in your realm and are utilizing the mortal thought stream as you are. These observations are well substantiated by all who can recognize the truth of these statements, of having feeling of being out of the office as it were, being away from your physical homeroom and out and about either in dreams, in fantasies, in memories and in projections of your desire such as prayer or the casting forward of your intentions. When you are engaged in these activities it is quite literally true that you are flirting with the time continuum.

Certainly your vehicle, your homeroom, your body is firmly established to the material realm and its condition of time but you are understanding more and more that there is an aspect of you which may travel abroad if you will, and indulge in revisiting memories which may indulge in wishful thinking and planning for the future, which may engage as well in the attempt to bring all these conditions into the present moment. It is an act of your intention and will to choose where your consciousness is at any given moment and so you may be fully present in this moment and in the next moment you may be somewhere else.

In your prayers you may be somewhere else, in the visualization of your desires for the future you are there and in your revisiting the events of your past experiences you can project yourself there as well. So you are as one who has access to a time capsule of sorts. This time capsule is your consciousness which is able to climb aboard and choose another spot on your timeline to emerge and experience. This is why it is so significant for you to master your manifesting potential of intention because you can literally create what you will encounter by going there first with an act of your intention and paving the way so that when time catches up with you you have already seen the future, in fact, created the future.

So, if you are powerful enough to create your future and to influence your timeline, what will you choose? Will your choices reflect your highest ideals and your grandest hopes and visions of the future or will you engage in condemning your future to a less than desirable state? This is the significance of your choice for whatever you do choose will be as the seeds of your intention that you project out and sow before you so that when you get there they will be in flower and in bloom. So choose well the seeds you will sow in your future and resist in engaging in limiting yourselves by less than ideal conditioning.

I perceive we venture out far onto the diving board with such a topic. This truly is morontia level thought pattern. It may not be compatible for all who are exposed to it but since you ask, since you seek, you are provided with that which you seek. So I hope this is helpful in your efforts to piece together an understanding of this whole puzzle before you. I will contain my remarks there so as to not deluge you with too much at one time. I honor your efforts to explore these principles and to master them, even as a mortal of the realm and I assure you if you continue to pursue mastery of such principles, this will be your destiny.


In the meantime I am grateful beyond words for this opportunity to utilize this interface we enjoy in this moment and I sense your gratitude as well. I withdraw in humble appreciation to The Father for such grace as we both experience, thank you and farewell.

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